How can you tell your own biography of advancement without stylizing yourself as a figurehead of supposed equal opportunities? How much do you reveal about yourself, how much pain can a story bear and how can you respond to the bourgeois gaze "from above"? Hendrik Quast and Hami Nguyen, author of "The end of invisibility. Why we need to talk about anti-Asian racism" talk from very different perspectives and lived experiences of classism in the cultural sector, about the possibilities of reinterpretation and redistribution and humor as a coping strategy.